For those who don’t know, FeministX is a blogger (or is that “bloggette”?) who is somewhat known in Game and HBD circles. Though she claims allegiance to Feminism she doesn’t write a heck of a lot about it. Like most HAPs (Hindu American Princesses), she obsesses over finding the right guy for marriage and so on, in that kind of indolent, vapid way that those cut from the uppercrust cloth tends to do.
Although I find most of what she says at turns repugnant and revolting, I must say that one thing she’s mentioned several times in as many months is 100% true, and much to my fellow Brothers In Game’s chagrin-it is incredibly easy for a Woman to get laid. Not just the “HB10s” of the world-
-just about ANY Woman.
It’s true, and only the naive or the ideological could see it otherwise.
Last week’s big story out of New York City is a case in point. Former New York Mets General Manager and (now former, because he was fired) ESPN Baseball analyst Steve Phillips was caught red-handed w/a mistress known as the Tubby Tempstress-and as if her size weren’t enough to add insult to injury for those of you who find such a thing a turnoff, she’s NOT attractive in the face either. Keep in mind, Phillips’ wife is not a bad looking Woman of 40 or so, and as a very successful guy could pretty much write his own ticket to Women who were at least consistent 7s on the Beauty Scale.
Yet, there he was, arm wrapped around the Tubby Tempstress.
Wow.
While Roissy and others have attempted to explain what could only be in their minds a bizarre turn of events, it’s pretty simple to me-for guys, getting laid takes LOTS of work-unless you find yourself in that very small group of guys who have something extra, an edge-be it Leading Man looks, Richard Branson-style wealth or Mystery & Style level GAME. Otherwise, you pretty much have to take what you can get out there on the sexual market-and the dirty little secret is, that guys settle a whole heck of a lot more than Women do. The proof is in the pudding-pardon the pun.
FemX claims to have “field tested” her theory out, by crafting online personas of Women of differing ages, sizes, colors and the like-including senior-citizen aged, and weighing well over 300lbs-and she claims to have gotten responses from many guys, guys who are, so she claims, quite attractive, etc.
Obviously, neither I, nor anyone else reading this can verify her “findings”, but we really don’t need to-a quick look around tells the story. All of us have seen at least one instance, per day, of a good looking guy w/a chick who is “OK” to really subpar, however you may define that. And, a quick look at the pornworld should be enough to convince anyone that old ladies, fat ladies, and yup, even ugly ladies, can and do get wood-often, lots of it. There are entire niche markets for this sort of stuff, and look, the numbers don’t lie-if there wasn’t market for it, no one would buy it.
So, what’s my point? Simple-I think we need to stop Hatin’ on the Fugly Chicks of the World. Why?
Because, and again I’m just being real here, unless you, as a guy, are getting laid more than a dozen times a year, with the Woman or Women of YOUR CHOICE, you really don’t have any room to talk. The vast majority of Women out there can easily outpace you in terms of purely getting laid. Yea, yea, I know what you’re going to say-its about quality, not quantity. Nice try, Keyboard Warrior-but it doesn’t take a STEM guy to know that when you have NOTHING, ANYTHING IS BETTER. The Perfect is always, always, always, the enemy of the Good. Or in this case, the Not So Hot.
One of the great things about Game is that it focuses on actual results, not theories. Bottomline: unless you’re macking like Roissy or some of the other PUA types you read about, you really don’t have a heck of a lot of room to talk, and a smart Man would be a bit more circumspect about the Not So Hot Ladies. They’re doing the world a tremendous service, because without them, most of you guys would almost assuredly be at home this weekend, doing the David Alexander with Skeletor’s left hand.
I’m just sayin’.
The Obsidian
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You have valid points, O, and indeed women can get laid whenever they want.
Which is why a woman with a low count is something to be admired and a woman with a high count is something to use, but never commit to.
I wish this battle of the sexes would end.
I like people – male or female. But the bitterness coming from men today beats any single childless woman over 40 with 5 cats.
When did men become so catty and so in competition with women?
Is it possible for me to even have genuine guy friends anymore?
Talleyrand,
Yup. The issue for Women, isn’t *quantity* but rather, *quality*, hence, for example, FeministX’s obsession with finding “The One”. She’s hardly alone-many, many Women are in he exact same spot, and what’s worse? Unless you and me, who can afford to piss away a decade fucking up in pretty much all areas of life, stop on a dime and turn it around, Women simply don’t have that kind of time to waste. At most, they’ll have about 15 years to make good on their genetic promise-after that, it’s pretty much a Fire Sale. And in FemX’s case, the sand’s running out of the hourglass like a MFer. She’s in Settling Mode, she just don’t know it yet. TFH has written about this quite a bit-he calls it a Woman’s “Wile E. Coyote Moment”, and it ain’t no joke. Actually, its quite a sad thing to witness.
Anyway, my point here in this post is to simply note an important fact-that the vast majority of Women can get laid if they want to, and it don’t make much sense for keyboard jockeys, most of whom can’t recall the last time they smelled some vaj, talking all this smack about how Women look. Beggars can’t afford to be choosey, and those wise in the Ways of Game know and understand this. Give the Homely Gals a break, I say-they can and will often save a Man from a seriously dreaded case of Blue Balls.
I’m just being real.
The Obsidian
DADT,
Thanks for coming! Glad to see ya hear, do tell me a bit about yourself and how you heard about me? Thanks.
As for your comments: there always has been and always will be, a “battle of the sexes”. Not a heck of a lot can be done about that because the sexes have competing drives. What can be done however, is a greater respect for a our differences. A healthy respect for Game does this, because through it a Man understands what drives Women, and to have not only respect, but a degree of empathy for Women, too. On many levels I feel sorry for Women in our time, because for so many, playing a kind of Ponzi-scheme means that only a few can win, and the majority WILL lose. And like I said above, “settling” is a very, very difficult thing to do, to even contemplate. So, it’s sad.
As for why so many guys are so angry, well, hey, when you are pulled out of the Matrix, you tend to be pissed off, lol. Ignorance is bliss, and that’s what often happens to guys when they first find out the truth about Women. Some guys can take it in stride, others can’t. *shrugs*
The Obsidian
Obs,
great to see you started a blog. I had a post up yesterday about this very subject.
Riffdog over at Ashley & me blog put up a female profile and played with the stats. He found there was no shortage of men willing to make it with any type of woman
Your blog is awesome. Title of the first post = perfection.
Kidding, yo, but glad to see that you made good on your Oct 31 promise.
And hyperlink me in your original post, pls
Hell yeah, been looking forward to your blog.
Always enjoyed the way you sliced through the comments section of the sphere with objective determination.
I think the key to this post is the FUGLY’s doing lots of men a favor, and showing some love for that.
What’s especially interesting, is lots of mediocre to ugly girls like to talk as though they “need to get laid” and have it tough, but it’s not at all equivalent to the poor sap who truly can’t make it happen.
I haven’t read any posts. The blog looks great, but the light writing on dark background is horrible. Please change that.
FemX,
You’re most welcome. Only one thing though-how do you “hyperlink”? Never did that before, LOL. Help a Brotha out, and I’ll hook you up.
The Obsidian
OneSTDV,
You gotta be kidding. You actually think you gonna be shotcallin’ here? You really do need to get out more.
But I’ll tell you what I will do-I will be adding you to my blogroll, so interested readers here can see how I slice and dice the many inane things you say at your site. Stick around-we’re just getting started!;)
The Obsidian
Hi Luvsic,
Thanks for the kudos, and looking forward to you adding your two cents to the colloquiy err once and awhile. Yup, we gotta stop going so hard on the ladies, one because its the gentlemanly thing to do-afterall, let’s face it, Women know deep down when they really aint that hot-and two, because let’s face it, if you’re a guy w/no Game and no other discernable qualities, you’re gonna NEED the Plain James of the world to break you off err once in awhile, that’s just the plain truth of it. So, don’t kill the goose that laid the golden egg, is what I’m sayin’.
The Obsidian
“When did men become so catty and so in competition with women?”
You’re kidding, right? Are you that oblivious that you can’t see that it was WOMEN who decided to compete with men–for economic and political power.
As is the most salient point of Obs’ blog, men grovel all our lives to get laid. When we have to grovel before bitch supervisors at work and butter up cunt just to keep from starving, that’s when the George Sodinis of the world start showing up.
“Is it possible for me to even have genuine guy friends anymore?”
Sure it is, as long as they have another outlet for the sexual tension that you pretend doesn’t exist. Otherwise you’re just another cockteaser.
Jut giving you some advice.
It’s common advice that light writing on dark background is discouraged.
here’s a relevant link:
http://www.problogger.net/archives/2009/04/07/do-you-prefer-light-or-dark-backgrounds-on-blogs/
just read the comments:
“Light background are much easier to read IMO. Dark backgrounds make me squint ”
“but most of the dark themes I have seen are almost unreadable. On the whole, I much prefer light backgrounds.”
”
White (or light) writing on a dark background is just too hard for me to read.
If the blog is a photo blog, or some other topic that is highly visual (and doesn’t need me to ready too much), then I can tolerate a dark background.
”
“One thing I don’t really care for is black background behind the text. It kind of hurts my eyes.”
“I prefer light backgrounds. Dark is ok for a photo blog.”
“I prefer light backgrounds — white, preferably. Dark backgrounds with light lettering are hard to read, ”
“I agree with all the commenters who find black or dark text against light background more readable. Maybe ’cause I’m also of the age of book readers. Black or colorful backgrounds push me away. True of Websites generally.”
“I prefer lighter backgrounds to the darker ones as the aesthetics would pretty much be comfy for the eyes too.”
“Dark backgrounds with light fonts burn my eyes when I look away.”
There are plenty of other blog tip websites giving similar advice.
But I guess I’m only saying it b/c I’m a racist, right?
Hi OneSTDV,
Speak of the proverbial devil! Glad you’re still here. Stick around, I got somethin’ for ya in a minute.
As for your comments-no, they’re not Racist, they’re stupid. They’re stupid because:
1. I did not ask you for your advice
2. Because you don’t get to determine how my site looks or how it’s run here
3. Because you’re the only guy to say something like that thus far (which should tell you something)
And
4. Because it gives a prima facie example of White Guy telling the rest of the World how things should be run and done.
Well, OneSTDV, what do people do with unsolicited advice? I mean, since you’re so scientific and all…what does your empirical evidence tell you? Hmm?
Your only two options here are:
1. Participate within the parameters I’ve set
Or
2. Take your ass outta here.
Hopefully, you’ll stick around, because I’ve been meaning to get with you for a good long minute now.
More in a minute.
The Obsidian
Heh, talk about running out of the gate at full steam, Obsidian. Well done.
I’d add that excessively picking on ugly chicks is a sign of mean-spiritedness. You might be familiar with Slumlord, who operates The Social Pathologist blog and comments at my place from time to time. He used to comment at Roissy’s but stopped after the infamous “Visualizing Omega” post. His rationale was that attacking the downtrodden and trying to take what little happiness they have away from them was unspeakably cruel.
With the exception of fatties, ugly women didn’t choose their fate. To besmirch them for what they have no control over is to be a “small-minded dickhead.” It’s morally repugnant.
Also, depending on how much traffic you get, Ob, you may want to disable threaded comments – they tend to make longer discussions more cumbersome.
Good to see the blog, Obsidian. Get in touch and we’ll get you set up with TS.
“As for your comments-no, they’re not Racist, they’re stupid. They’re stupid because:
1. I did not ask you for your advice
2. Because you don’t get to determine how my site looks or how it’s run here
3. Because you’re the only guy to say something like that thus far (which should tell you something)
And
4. Because it gives a prima facie example of White Guy telling the rest of the World how things should be run and done.”
Hilarious. Most bloggers welcome suggestions for improving their site. i Know I did when I started (and I still do). You’re free to keep the site how you want, just letting you know that most don’t like the color scheme, whether they voice those concerns or not. I think I provided pretty good evidence that most don’t like it, but maybe they were all white so it doens’t matter what they say.
And yes of course, I only offered the advice because I’m a white guy who thinks I have the right to tell everyone else what to do. I’m starting to think you’re no different from the Cornel West-Tim Wise tpyes who see racism where none exists. And who can’t stop talking about race even when it’s irrelevant.
But just to prove that this last point is absurd: Here’s some advice i gave another proto-blogger. Notice how he graciously accepted it, then acted on it.
http://liberalbiorealism.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/the-likelihood-of-genetic-group-differences-in-iq-the-black-white-gap-in-iq/#comment-5
LOL. I wonder if selective reading/questionable comprehension and high IQ are closely correlated. Maybe you might consider doing a study on that, OneSTDV?
What part of “unsolicited advice” don’t you understand? Hmm? That’s the bottomline here-you gave an unsolicited opinion, and it was rejected.
The.
End.
Now-do you actually wanna address the subject matter of the post, like most others here have done, or, are we gonna actually have a discussion on how the fuck I run my shit?
Hmm?;)
The Obsidian
Welmer,
Yup, I’ll most definitely be in touch very soon. I’m working on something I think you might be interested in. Gimme a few days or so.
By the way, what email addy do you want me to send it to?
The Obsidian
Hey Ferdi, thanks so much for the bigtime assist! Yea, I didn’t know the comments were staggered like this, I plan to take care of that soon. In btw computers and all that, so I’m a bit behind technologically, but I’ll fix it in due course.
And yea, I remember distinctly Roissy’s post and Slumlord’s response to same, and I basically agree. In fact, earlier today, I said something similar over at Roissy’s recent post on ugly folks. I agree with you 100%.
The Obsidian
Just send it to the contact form on TS. That goes to my usual email.
Sestamibi:
You’re kidding, right? Are you that oblivious that you can’t see that it was WOMEN who decided to compete with men–for economic and political power.
As is the most salient point of Obs’ blog, men grovel all our lives to get laid. When we have to grovel before bitch supervisors at work and butter up cunt just to keep from starving, that’s when the George Sodinis of the world start showing up.
“Is it possible for me to even have genuine guy friends anymore?”
Sure it is, as long as they have another outlet for the sexual tension that you pretend doesn’t exist. Otherwise you’re just another cockteaser.
…………………….
1. Never was there a time in history when women did not work to contribute to the family income, the exception being royalty and other priveleged folk. Women have always worked – either on the family farm, or in the home making stuff to sell, or doing other forms of labor either connected with family or not – all to contribute to their family income. For that matter, for most of history children did the same, and still continue to do the same in various parts of the world today. In countries like India where women do not have equal rights and status as men and the culture as a whole is extremely socially conservative, poor women are brick layers and construction workers and have been for centuries.
Post WW2 1950s America where a large amount of middle class women FINALLY had the choice to stay at home and bake and watch TV, was a rarity, an exception, not the rule.
So, all this being true, why in the world would women NOT rally for economic and political equality? They had been working their asses off for millenia anyway!
This petty fighting between men and women we see in the “seduction community” circles – over who ages better/worse, who can pull younger mates more, who can get laid more without acquiring a bad reputation, etc… is so incredibly juvenile it reads like 7th grade.
It’s beginning to jade my perceptions of men, I thought y’all had more substance!
Obsidian, good luck with the new blog. I’m one of your fans. Lot’s of the commentators at Game type of blogs come across as either stupid or mean; you’re neither. Cheers.
Ferdinand:
Just to clarify one point. Like you, I’ve got no problem in shaming those who choose to be ugly, be that in spirit, action or choice: the fatties, feminists, sartorially challenged etc, are all fair game. But there is no sportsmanship in hunting the weak and the lame.
OK feel free to ignore what I say. I am really interested in what you have to say, but this blog background just makes your site unbearblae to read through(again, I showed this is a pretty common opinion).
Obsidian,
I enjoy your comments on other sites and I am glad you have your own blog up and running. I will try to add a European perspective where, at least up to recently, racial matters in general have been dealt with much more successfully.
For those who do not like light text on a dark background, it is possible to override the websites color settings (Internet Options, General, Accessibility, Ignore colors specified on webpages). I have done that since I much prefer dark text on a light background and I know that Obsidian is now locked into his choice an he won’t be changing the color scheme any time soon!
Hi Slumlord,
Thanks for the comments and welcome aboard! I agree w/your post on your blogsite (The Elephant Man). Good stuff.
The Obsidian
OneSTDV,
You’re still not hearing me, you’re the ONLY ONE HERE BITCHING ABOUT HOW MY SITE LOOKS. Now, you’re the scientist-why is that? What does your scientific training tell about those who offer unsolicited advice? Or haven’t you done a peer reviewed and in-depth logitudinal study on that one yet?
The Obsidian
They don’t think they Wily Coyote moment will ever come, and then they are shocked by it.
The reality is that a lot of the naturals and upper betas end up married fairly early, even today, or they never get married.
If FemX really wanted “The One” the time to grab him is when he’s in his early 20s (college) before he realizes the mistake he’s made. The pickings drop of after that.
I don’t feel sorry for them, I feel sorry for the schmuck they “settle for” because these days they don’t realize that men settle too, they see it as one sided and that poor guy is in for a nasty time of it usually.
Just a suggestion: the ‘Vigilance’ theme is a lot more readable than this one. The text size is way too small on this site.
While this theme is readable, OneSTDV is correct that dark background and light text tend to be less readable.
[This is probably because of poor font choice (font size and font face) and low contrast. While this theme seems to avoid those mistakes, it is still probably harder on the eyes (more tiring to read) than dark text/light background.]
Any useability/readability studies I have seen point to dark text/light background and higher contrast improving legibility.
A point to remember in web design is that, due to different browser and screen settings, what you see is not exactly what I get. In other words, it may not look exactly the same to you as it does to other readers.
BTW
You can turn off the threaded comments at http://theobsidianfiles.wordpress.com/wp-admin/options-discussion.php
You will need to be logged in to your WordPress account.
The option is “Enable threaded (nested) comments” under the “Other comment settings” section.
While Roissy and others have attempted to explain what could only be in their minds a bizarre turn of events, it’s pretty simple to me-for guys, getting laid takes LOTS of work-unless you find yourself in that very small group of guys who have something extra, an edge-be it Leading Man looks, Richard Branson-style wealth or Mystery & Style level GAME. Otherwise, you pretty much have to take what you can get out there on the sexual market-and the dirty little secret is, that guys settle a whole heck of a lot more than Women do. The proof is in the pudding-pardon the pun.
Thank you. I wish more people realized this.
Obsidian/Mu
1) Steve Phillips is an outlier. Most men of his status and low level celebrity would never settle for a girl looking like her for an on the side lover;
2) there’s a certain extra pull that lower ranking female co workers have for many men (and vice versa in reverse), classically in the male direct boss scenario, but more generally. Note this is aside from any payoff inducements that might also occur. The taboo and with feminist sexual harassment law dangerous nature of it for men can make it more exciting. Sex is about transgressing, often.
3) Yes nearly all women can get laid by some man, but to a far greater extent than is admitted especially on blogs that attract betas and omegas wanting to learn game and MRA beta types, so too can nearly all men if they too lower their standards enough. I’ll concede that men need to lower their standards more than women do. However part of this is that a certain kind of man, with a good job but a very non assertive personality, rates himself much higher in sexual attractiveness to women than he really falls. Fat and ugly girls are lied to about their attraction deficits, but less than that particular kind of beta and in some cases even omega guy has been.
Depends on how we dress and the vibe we put out. If we dress sexy and put out the sexy/available vibe, then we will get flirted with my many men. If we don’t, even though the face and body remains the same, we won’t.
A person gets what they are looking for.
I’ve done personal experiments in this regard.
“However part of this is that a certain kind of man, with a good job but a very non assertive personality, rates himself much higher in sexual attractiveness to women than he really falls.”……………
True. I know one man, granted, he has a very cute face, handsome even, but he rates himself too high. He thinks he’s amongst the best looking men in the world, even though he is quite thin and still under 6 feet tall.
He had a decent cubicle job, at least it was regular income, if not very high paying, and because in his ‘hood most of the dudes did not work, he thought this was some sort of accomplishment.
He thought his face alone, along with a steady job and his “charm” was going to win over the hottest women. And he preferred women older to himself, and he thought his younger status was a bonus. Well, it could be IF he had a more high-powered, high-income job.
I guess he though older, smarter, and more sophisticated women would be happy to have a cuter, younger, boy toy, but there were not that many takers. At least in his environment.
However he did manage to snag a sugar mama up in Vancouver, BC. who thinks he’s the cat’s pajamas, even though now he does not work and she pays all the bills while he’s at home surfing the net and time to time feeding and changing diapers.
Still, I bet she’s the one cooking dinner when she comes home from a long day at work.
Don’t wanna be seem arrogant here, but sorry, after working so much on the game for hours everyday to increase my dating market value, i am not gonna settle for a fat lady who doesn’t even work for the most basic asset that would increase her value in the market- her looks.
Porn is always better than girls lower than 5s,and the game still be practised with them without getting to the intercourse stage
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